Hi Vity, I may be interested to learn about Java programming. For some one who has a basic knowledge of C programming, how long would it take to get start with Java, giving I won't work more than two hours a day ? Which book did you use to learn Java ? Which IDE or tool do you use ? Thanks. Jim. http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/221/_subject_#msg-221 Tue, 21 May 2013 14:18:12 +0200 Phorum 5.2.10 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/1931/_subject_#msg-1931 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/1931/_subject_#msg-1931 AE Misc Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:21:46 +0200 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/278/_subject_#msg-278 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/278/_subject_#msg-278 jim Misc Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:17:24 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/277/_subject_#msg-277 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/277/_subject_#msg-277 >
> I wish you an happy new year 2007.
>

Happy New Yeat to you too.

> I am starting using Netbeans and I have a few
> questions about the RAD function :
>
> - Is it only possible to create jFrames and
> jPanels with the RAD tool ? is there the same
> limitation on IDEA ?

I wouldn't call it as a limitation. JFrame and JPanel are main containers for storing components. IDEA supports inserting components into JPanels only.

> - If I want to create a jTabbedPanel inside a
> jFrame, with tabs defiened into a different file,
> I won't see the design with the elipse Netbeans
> fonction. Is there a way to do something modular
> with Netbeans ?

I am sorry, I don't know. I never used Netbeans. I don't use any designer either. I prefer manual coding :-).

> For the moment I add manualy the call of the
> jPannels containted into a jFrame, by including a
> "jTabbedPane1.add(new Panel1());" in the
> constructor, but I don't whether it is clean.
It's "almost" clean. It's correct, but you won't be able to see any components inside jtabbedpane - try this:
Container pane = new Panel1();
pane.add(new JButton("OK"));
tabbedPane.addTab("Tab 1", null, pane,
"Does nothing");

> -The Netbeans documentation is very limited on
> there web site. Is there an other site that gives
> more sophisticated examples ?

what about this: [www.netbeans.org], or this [www.netbeans.org] or this [www.netbeans.org]:-)

Vity]]> Vity Misc Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:35:47 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/276/_subject_#msg-276 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/276/_subject_#msg-276
I wish you an happy new year 2007.

I am starting using Netbeans and I have a few questions about the RAD function :

- Is it only possible to create jFrames and jPanels with the RAD tool ? is there the same limitation on IDEA ?
- If I want to create a jTabbedPanel inside a jFrame, with tabs defiened into a different file, I won't see the design with the elipse Netbeans fonction. Is there a way to do something modular with Netbeans ?
For the moment I add manualy the call of the jPannels containted into a jFrame, by including a "jTabbedPane1.add(new Panel1());" in the constructor, but I don't whether it is clean.
-The Netbeans documentation is very limited on there web site. Is there an other site that gives more sophisticated examples ?

Thanks.

Jim.]]> jim Misc Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:56:53 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/254/_subject_#msg-254 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/254/_subject_#msg-254
Sorry, I asked you twice the same question because I didn't see the answer on the page 2.]]> jim Misc Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:49:25 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/250/_subject_#msg-250 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/250/_subject_#msg-250 >>I thought that the advantage of Java was portability, and I don't undersand why there is one version of wordrider per OS ?
>>Can you run any byte code on any platform (with the relevant JVM) ?
Yes. Here is some relevant info: [en.wikipedia.org] and here is some info how JVM/byte code works : [en.wikipedia.org], eventually [en.wikipedia.org]

>>I found a compiler that contend to compile Java byte code into machine code : [gcc.gnu.org]
>>Do you think it is searious ?
>>Have you tried it ?
I did not. It has very limited support of Java libraries and I read an article with a speed comparison where GCC was slower than Sun's JVM.

Vity]]> Vity Misc Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:54:46 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/249/_subject_#msg-249 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/249/_subject_#msg-249
I have a couple of question about Java :

I thought that the advantage of Java was portability, and I don't undersand why there is one version of wordrider per OS ?
Can you run any byte code on any platform (with the relevant JVM) ?

I found a compiler that contend to compile Java byte code into machine code :
[gcc.gnu.org]
Do you think it is searious ?
Have you tried it ?

Thanks.]]> jim Misc Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:28:22 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/245/_subject_#msg-245 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/245/_subject_#msg-245 Just MacOs distribution does not contain Kunsttoff L&F because of problem with loading PNG files. Linux distribution contains launch.sh and Windows distribution contains wordrider.exe.]]> Vity Misc Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:51:38 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/244/_subject_#msg-244 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/244/_subject_#msg-244
I thought that the advantage of Java was the binary portability.]]> jim Misc Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:32:10 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/237/_subject_#msg-237 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/237/_subject_#msg-237 Vity Misc Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:43:29 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/236/_subject_#msg-236 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/236/_subject_#msg-236
The JVM is quite big. Does it exists a JVM for palm computers?]]> jim Misc Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:39:52 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/235/_subject_#msg-235 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/235/_subject_#msg-235 Anyway, UML diagrams can be easily generated in any design editor from sources.
I didn't use any framework. I created it based on my experience and articles I read.
Framework usually means slower application. I wanted to avoid this in WordRider. On the other hand frameworks are good for huge applications and WordRider starts to be such big.]]> Vity Misc Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:28:53 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/233/_subject_#msg-233 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/233/_subject_#msg-233
I m wondering whether you have a top level description of Wordrider ? (UML diagrams, ...)

I am wondering how do you start a Java project.
Do you have a framework from the begining or do you add funtions gradualy ?]]> jim Misc Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:16:24 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/226/_subject_#msg-226 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/226/_subject_#msg-226 >> On Windows Me it says that it require rights (strange since on windows me the user/superuser don't exits as far as I know.
Yeah, it's their bug: Look at this: [wiki.netbeans.info]

>> Besides that it seems there are a lot of graphic libraries in the java world (Swing, SWT, AWT...)
I guess that this article will help you more than me: SWT, Swing or AWT: Which is right for you? There is good comparison of advantages and/or disadvantages of every framework.
>>What do you use for Wordrider ? Which one is the more wide spread among developpers ?
WordRider is written in SWING. It's very customizable and it's easy to learn.
Most of applications are written in SWING (eg. Netbeans or IntelliJ too). Only Eclipse and a few applications based on Eclipse platform use SWT.]]> Vity Misc Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:42:00 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/225/_subject_#msg-225 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/225/_subject_#msg-225
I managed to install NetBeans 5.5 on Linux, unfortunalty I was not able to install it on Windows Me. On Windows Me it says that it require rights (strange since on windows me the user/superuser don't exits as far as I know.

Besides that it seems there are a lot of graphic libraries in the java world (Swing, SWT, AWT...)
Can you tell me what are the advantaged/drawdacks of various solutions ? What do you use for Wordrider ? Which one is the more wide spread among developpers ?

Thanks.

Jim.]]> jim Misc Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:18:23 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/224/_subject_#msg-224 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/224/_subject_#msg-224 Jbuilder's architecture is old and it's without useful features.
For comfortable using Eclipse you will have to install tons of plugins...
I would recommend you Netbeans 5.5 (they "stoled" most of features from the IntelliJ IDEA).


(property of [www.nevndave.com])]]> Vity Misc Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:02:03 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/223/_subject_#msg-223 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/223/_subject_#msg-223
Intellij IDEA is much too expensive for me.
I spotted 2 other IDE that seems do be free :
[www.borland.com]
[www.eclipse.org]

Have you tried them ?]]> jim Misc Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:05:44 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/222/_subject_#msg-222 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/222/_subject_#msg-222 I hope that you were convinced by WordRider ;-).

>>For some one who has a basic knowledge of C programming, how long would it take to get start with Java, giving I won't work more than two hours a day ?

That's a difficult question. Java is easy language to learn, but you have to know some basics of object oriented programming (pure C is procedural only). It depends on your goal.

>>Which book did you use to learn Java ?
I used these: Thinking in Java and Effective Java
Also Professional Java Programming is a good one.

>>Which IDE or tool do you use ?
IntelliJ IDEA. It's the best IDE tool ever, but it's commercial. I was really happy when I won a personal license and Java Duke this week ;-).]]> Vity Misc Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:19:42 +0100 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/221/_subject_#msg-221 http://wordrider.net/forum/6/221/221/_subject_#msg-221
I may be interested to learn about Java programming.

For some one who has a basic knowledge of C programming, how long would it take to get start with Java, giving I won't work more than two hours a day ?

Which book did you use to learn Java ?

Which IDE or tool do you use ?

Thanks.

Jim.]]> Vity Misc Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:18:35 +0100