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Posted by Vity 
Java programming
November 05, 2006 01:18AM
Hi Vity,

I may be interested to learn about Java programming.

For some one who has a basic knowledge of C programming, how long would it take to get start with Java, giving I won't work more than two hours a day ?

Which book did you use to learn Java ?

Which IDE or tool do you use ?

Thanks.

Jim.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2006 01:21AM by Vity.
Re: Java programming
November 05, 2006 01:19AM
>>I may be interested to learn about Java programming.
I hope that you were convinced by WordRider winking smiley.

>>For some one who has a basic knowledge of C programming, how long would it take to get start with Java, giving I won't work more than two hours a day ?

That's a difficult question. Java is easy language to learn, but you have to know some basics of object oriented programming (pure C is procedural only). It depends on your goal.

>>Which book did you use to learn Java ?
I used these: Thinking in Java and Effective Java
Also Professional Java Programming is a good one.

>>Which IDE or tool do you use ?
IntelliJ IDEA. It's the best IDE tool ever, but it's commercial. I was really happy when I won a personal license and Java Duke this week winking smiley.

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jim
Re: Java programming
November 07, 2006 11:05AM
Thanks Vity,

Intellij IDEA is much too expensive for me.
I spotted 2 other IDE that seems do be free :
[www.borland.com]
[www.eclipse.org]

Have you tried them ?
Re: Java programming
November 07, 2006 06:02PM
I know all Java IDEs...
Jbuilder's architecture is old and it's without useful features.
For comfortable using Eclipse you will have to install tons of plugins...
I would recommend you Netbeans 5.5 (they "stoled" most of features from the IntelliJ IDEA).


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2006 02:38PM by Vity.
jim
Re: Java programming
November 10, 2006 01:18PM
Hi Vity,

I managed to install NetBeans 5.5 on Linux, unfortunalty I was not able to install it on Windows Me. On Windows Me it says that it require rights (strange since on windows me the user/superuser don't exits as far as I know.

Besides that it seems there are a lot of graphic libraries in the java world (Swing, SWT, AWT...)
Can you tell me what are the advantaged/drawdacks of various solutions ? What do you use for Wordrider ? Which one is the more wide spread among developpers ?

Thanks.

Jim.
Re: Java programming
November 10, 2006 02:42PM
Hi,
>> On Windows Me it says that it require rights (strange since on windows me the user/superuser don't exits as far as I know.
Yeah, it's their bug: Look at this: [wiki.netbeans.info]

>> Besides that it seems there are a lot of graphic libraries in the java world (Swing, SWT, AWT...)
I guess that this article will help you more than me: SWT, Swing or AWT: Which is right for you? There is good comparison of advantages and/or disadvantages of every framework.
>>What do you use for Wordrider ? Which one is the more wide spread among developpers ?
WordRider is written in SWING. It's very customizable and it's easy to learn.
Most of applications are written in SWING (eg. Netbeans or IntelliJ too). Only Eclipse and a few applications based on Eclipse platform use SWT.

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2006 12:52AM by Vity.
jim
Re: Java programming
November 22, 2006 01:16PM
Hi Vity,

I m wondering whether you have a top level description of Wordrider ? (UML diagrams, ...)

I am wondering how do you start a Java project.
Do you have a framework from the begining or do you add funtions gradualy ?
Re: Java programming
November 22, 2006 03:28PM
All SWING applications have similar structure and WordRider's structure is too simple to make such things.
Anyway, UML diagrams can be easily generated in any design editor from sources.
I didn't use any framework. I created it based on my experience and articles I read.
Framework usually means slower application. I wanted to avoid this in WordRider. On the other hand frameworks are good for huge applications and WordRider starts to be such big.

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jim
Re: Java programming
November 24, 2006 08:39PM
Hi Vity,

The JVM is quite big. Does it exists a JVM for palm computers?
Re: Java programming
November 24, 2006 08:43PM
Sorry, I don't know. Use google winking smiley.

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