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        <title>BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
        <description> Hi

There seems to be a problem with BBC iPlayer that I haven't seen before.

SOME but not all programmes posted in the last couple of days aren't downloading properly. 
Only a tiny fraction of these programmes are coming down before the download is marked by FRD as COMPLETE.

Examples of the problem links:
[www.bbc.co.uk]
[www.bbc.co.uk]

in those two links only about 260 KILObytes- each is being downloaded - a normal episode is over 700 MEGAbytes. This is despite the programmes playing normally in iPlayer.



As a comparison, an edition of the same programme from the day before still downloads properly:
[www.bbc.co.uk]


If it helps to diagnose the problem, here are a couple of other comparison programmes - also new ones from the last couple of days - which are still downloading normally at present,

[www.bbc.co.uk]
[www.bbc.co.uk]


My FRD and the plug-ins are up to date.
If there is any other info I can give you, please let me know,

Thanks again for a great piece of software.
Regards</description>
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            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18870/_subject_#msg-18870</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks a lot for the new version of 1.50!<br />
It works greatly.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>chancemimi</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2017 09:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18863/_subject_#msg-18863</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18863/_subject_#msg-18863</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Plugin v1.5.0 now supports stream type selection (HDS, RTMP). Also bitrate and fps infos have been added.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tong2shot</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2017 10:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18857/_subject_#msg-18857</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18857/_subject_#msg-18857</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I think we need to add RTMP, HDS option to plugin settings, so users can choose the streaming type. In addition to that, I think we also need to add bitrate, fps information to video quality setttings. I hope those additional options will not confuse users.<br />
<br />
We'll see if we can implement those things. And if I can get a working UK VPN node. Finding a working UK VPN node is quite troublesome..<br />
<br />
As for login, well it definitely will be a nightmare to maintain BBC iplayer plugin. None of plugin developers are UK resident. Maintaining, fixing plugin is fun, it's one of hobby of mine. I'm happy if users are happy. But with the strict login mechanism, I don't know.. it will give me more trouble..<br />
<br />
So I'll be glad if anyone want to take over maintainer-ship of BBC iplayer plugin.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tong2shot</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 11:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18856/_subject_#msg-18856</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18856/_subject_#msg-18856</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ After trying the new version of plugin for bbc, I found the speed of downloading gets slower, and I was reminded of  unexpected EOF.<br />
The setting I am using :<br />
<br />
Plugin version :1.40<br />
Freferred quaility 480p<br />
RTMP port 1935(default)<br />
CDN: akamai<br />
enable tor<br />
download subtitles<br />
<br />
Is it because HDS has higher priority than rtmp?<br />
How can I change the plugin into the former version of 1.31 if I want to ?<br />
<br />
Thank you.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>chancemimi</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 04:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18855/_subject_#msg-18855</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18855/_subject_#msg-18855</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ rancor wrote:<br />
-------------------------------------------------------<br />
&gt; Plugin working, but... files downloading with 50<br />
&gt; FPS. Why?<br />
<br />
 Previous plugin used the legacy RTMP streams; <br />
in these streams, HD is supplied as a 720p25fps encode. <br />
In the past week or so, much of the HD RTMP (or flash) <br />
streams were corrupted, resulting in only partial downloads.<br />
<br />
The BBC have announced almost a year ago that the legacy <br />
RTMP streams (for both TV+Radio) are to be scrapped, <br />
but no definitive date has been announced yet.<br />
<br />
Apart from the legacy RTMP streams, BBC offers other forms of streams: <br />
<br />
1. Legacy AppleHLS streams; they do include a 720p25 encode but, <br />
again, most of those streams are corrupted and not downloadable <br />
in theit entirety; last time the same problem occurred with the legacy <br />
RTMP+AppleHLS streams, it took more than a month to rectify itself...<br />
<br />
2. More recent types of streams prepared by the Video/Audio Factory <br />
department of the BBC; these come in three different flavours: <br />
a) AdobeHDS (the one current FRD plugin uses to fetch)<br />
b) MPEG-DASH <br />
c) (Video Factory, not legacy) AppleHLS.<br />
<br />
These 3 flavours are just 3 different methods of stream delivery, <br />
but all 3 use pretty much the same encodes/quality variants. <br />
These quality variants do not include 720p25, only 720p50 <br />
with almost double filesize; next lower quality variant is 540p50, <br />
540p25 etc. <br />
If you want to learn more, do a search for the specialized tool for <br />
BBCiPlayer called get_iplayer and its wiki documentation....<br />
<br />
[<a href="https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/modes" rel="nofollow" >github.com</a>]<br />
[<a href="https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/modesref" rel="nofollow" >github.com</a>]<br />
<br />
BTW, on May 10th 2017 it was finalised and announced <br />
that imminently BBCiPlayer (both TV+Radio) would require <br />
a log-in to access anything available there (LIve TV+Radio, <br />
AOD+VOD). If they implement this in way that access to <br />
stream data required by FRD to download programmes is <br />
blocked without login credentials, then you may soon find <br />
the FRD plugin will stop working...<br />
<br />
The issue is more pronounced for overseas iPlayer users <br />
(they can legally only access low bitrate radio); they, too, <br />
would have to create an account (BBC ID) to access low <br />
quality radio, but those who wish to access also TV (via <br />
VPS/VPN/Proxy,SmartDNS etc) may find it impossible to do so then. <br />
<br />
The BBC would know when an overseas user is logged-in <br />
and may forbid access to TV streams for that user even if a <br />
geo-filtering circumvention tool is used...<br />
And for those in the UK, they would have to provide, when <br />
creating their account, a valid UK address with a valid UK e-mail, <br />
and on their site the beeb do admit checking your IP and UK <br />
postcode (so they can roughly estimate your exact physical <br />
location) and comparing it against the TV Licencing database <br />
to verify you are legally watching/downloading iPlayer content; <br />
if it so happens that you don't, expect an e-mail from them...<br />
<br />
Things look grim...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>TVjunkie</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 23:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18854/_subject_#msg-18854</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18854/_subject_#msg-18854</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Plugin working, but... files downloading with 50 FPS. Why?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>rancor</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 22:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18853/_subject_#msg-18853</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18853/_subject_#msg-18853</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for fixing it so quickly. I came back to this forum to find out what was happening when BBC downloads stopped working.<br />
<br />
BTW, the BBC website says that users will have to log in to view "soon". I assume that another update will be needed then?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>martyh</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 18:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18852/_subject_#msg-18852</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18852/_subject_#msg-18852</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ That works for me!  Many thanks indeed!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bwims</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 17:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18851/_subject_#msg-18851</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18851/_subject_#msg-18851</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi <br />
I've just tried plugin v1.4.0 with the original problem files and it seems to be working perfectly.<br />
Thanks very much for your help,<br />
<br />
Regards]]></description>
            <dc:creator>artwest</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18850/_subject_#msg-18850</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18850/_subject_#msg-18850</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the reports. Please try plugin v1.4.0. The new plugin supports HDS, and HDS has higher priority than RTMP. I can't get RTMP works, but fortunately all samples that I tried support HDS.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tong2shot</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 13:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18849/_subject_#msg-18849</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18849/_subject_#msg-18849</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ PS I've just tried changing my quality to 360p, like yours, and still have the same problem.<br />
<br />
Regards.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>artwest</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 14:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18848/_subject_#msg-18848</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18848/_subject_#msg-18848</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi<br />
Thanks very much for the reply and apologies that I've been away for a couple of days.<br />
<br />
My settings are:<br />
BBC plugin v1.3.1<br />
Quality: Best Available <br />
RTMP port: 1935<br />
CDN: Akamai<br />
<br />
Thanks again]]></description>
            <dc:creator>artwest</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 14:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18847/_subject_#msg-18847</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18847/_subject_#msg-18847</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I have the same problem here ,too.<br />
while downloading this <br />
[<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08ny6yt/world-championship-snooker-extra-2017-day-11" rel="nofollow" >www.bbc.co.uk</a>]<br />
after trying preferred qualities of 480p and 360p,the file stopped coming when it was 55m.<br />
Hoping this can be taken care of .]]></description>
            <dc:creator>chancemimi</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18830/_subject_#msg-18830</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18830/_subject_#msg-18830</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I have the same problem.   There is a BBC, Antiques Roadshow, which until today has downloaded perfectly with Quality - Highest available, RTMP=1935, CDN Akamai<br />
<br />
This one fails repeatedly with only 0 bytes downloaded!<br />
<br />
[<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08q6s55" rel="nofollow" >www.bbc.co.uk</a>]<br />
<br />
thanks!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bwims</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 15:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18825/_subject_#msg-18825</guid>
            <title>Re: BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18825/_subject_#msg-18825</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi,<br />
<br />
BBC plugin v1.3.1 works fine for me, with this plugin settings:<br />
Quality: 360p<br />
RTMP port: 1935<br />
CDN: either Akamai or Level3<br />
<br />
I was able to download ~3MB from each problematic links as test.<br />
<br />
Can you post your plugin settings?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tong2shot</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2017 11:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18820/_subject_#msg-18820</guid>
            <title>BBC iPlayer - some programmes not downloading fully</title>
            <link>https://wordrider.net/forum/10/18820/18820/_subject_#msg-18820</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi<br />
<br />
There seems to be a problem with BBC iPlayer that I haven't seen before.<br />
<br />
SOME but not all programmes posted in the last couple of days aren't downloading properly. <br />
Only a tiny fraction of these programmes are coming down before the download is marked by FRD as COMPLETE.<br />
<br />
Examples of the problem links:<br />
[<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08pnn6c/pointless-series-17-episode-11" rel="nofollow" >www.bbc.co.uk</a>]<br />
[<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08pnng4/pointless-series-17-episode-12" rel="nofollow" >www.bbc.co.uk</a>]<br />
<br />
in those two links only about 260 KILObytes- each is being downloaded - a normal episode is over 700 MEGAbytes. This is despite the programmes playing normally in iPlayer.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
As a comparison, an edition of the same programme from the day before still downloads properly:<br />
[<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08pnmyb/pointless-series-17-episode-10" rel="nofollow" >www.bbc.co.uk</a>]<br />
<br />
<br />
If it helps to diagnose the problem, here are a couple of other comparison programmes - also new ones from the last couple of days - which are still downloading normally at present,<br />
<br />
[<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08pqffw/debatable-series-2-episode-13" rel="nofollow" >www.bbc.co.uk</a>]<br />
[<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04yy2n4/the-truth-about-12-stress" rel="nofollow" >www.bbc.co.uk</a>]<br />
<br />
<br />
My FRD and the plug-ins are up to date.<br />
If there is any other info I can give you, please let me know,<br />
<br />
Thanks again for a great piece of software.<br />
Regards]]></description>
            <dc:creator>artwest</dc:creator>
            <category>FreeRapid Downloader - Plugins</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2017 11:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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